Re-Sizing the Keep

Posted: April 1, 2016 in Chastity, Long Term Chastity, Male Chastity, Mature Metal, Queens Keep

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I have been learning lately, that not only is a good fitting chastity device crucial for long-term comfort, but that it can actually change over time!  I wrote a tiny blurb in my last post (Left To My Own Devices) about how recently I have been noticing a bit of an issue with the very bottom of the cage kind of rubbing a sore spot on the scrotum.  I had just a tiny bit of an issue with this early on with the Queen’s Keep, but had found that keeping things lubricated and sort of “free-flowing” would solve the problem, and I hadn’t had any issue with that in quite a long time.  Lately though, it has been happening again, and it seems like none of my normal little tricks are working to make it better.  MOST of the time it isn’t too bad and I barely even notice it.  Until I do notice, then it can be difficult to get comfortable for a little while..  I have had to go so far as to take the cage off and put a band-aid over the sore spot in order to keep the cage from rubbing it too hard; and as my last post indicated, at the worst case I even had to leave it completely off for a couple days to heal.

My first thought was that perhaps I should have gone with a little bit larger gap between the base ring and the cage of the Queen’s Keep.  With the plastic devices that I had used previously, I was always used to going with the smallest available spacer, so when ordering the Queen’s Keep I opted for the smallest gap of only 1/4″.  The standard gap from Mature Metal is 3/8″, so I was wondering if I had that little bit of extra space then maybe it would push the cage out enough that it wouldn’t rub anymore?  My only real concern with that was making sure that it didn’t create a large enough gap for a ball to be able to sneak its way back through.

With that in mind, I sent a note to Mature Metal to see what it would take to get a new base ring with a slightly longer locking post (which would create the larger gap).  I explained my situation and why I was asking for this, to see if perhaps they’ve seen that issue before and might have a different solution.  In her response, Mistress MM asked if there was any kind of “burning” under the scrotum; because if that is not happening then the gap is the correct size.  I had NOT felt any burning, so I guess that may not be the problem..  She then asked about the cage/ring in general, if it slides down at all, wondering if the ring might “now be too big.” When completely flaccid, it should only be possible to slip one finger tip under the ring, up to the knuckle.  I can actually get TWO fingers in there, even much further than the knuckle, but I never really thought much of it because I do happen to have very skinny fingers!

wpid-canstockphoto2867977.jpgAs it happens, I did order two different sized rings back when I first acquired the Queen’s Keep.  I have been wearing the 1 3/4″ ring with very little problem (until recently). When I had first tried the smaller (1 5/8″) ring it seemed WAY too tight, like it was pretty much cutting off circulation, so that one has been stashed away in a drawer for the past year.  With this advice from Mistress MM though, the last time when I did have the cage off to put a band-aid over my sore, I did decide to try that ring again.  It was a bit difficult to get on at first, as it is such a small opening that the balls did not act like they wanted to fit through, but once it was on I did notice that now I could truly only get one finger underneath it up to the knuckle–just as she had described.  I wore that ring by itself for an hour or so and it seemed like it would be comfortable enough now, so that was probably the size that I needed.  I proceeded to put the cage back on, and found that everything was pretty much immediately “squeezed” and almost painful to the point of being unbearable!

I did leave the cage on with the smaller ring all that night though, and the next day at work, and again for a second night in a row…  During the day while I was up and active, it would get a lot easier to deal with and I thought I might be able to handle it, but as soon as I would lay down it was not good at all.  I kind of felt like a complete chastity newbie again, just getting used to wearing a cage for the first time!  I tried to tough it out for a while, but by the end of the second night with very little sleep I had to call it quits.  I took the cage back off and saw that now it had been rubbing in brand new places, starting to leave a nice half-circle in my skin right where the whole bottom half of the cage had come to rest.  I had to go back to the larger ring, taking care to have a strategically placed band-aid so that it wouldn’t keep rubbing more in the original spot, and that’s where I’ve been ever since.

I contacted Mature Metal again, describing my experiences now with the smaller ring.  It did seem like possibly the correct diameter now (it wasn’t cutting off circulation by itself) but when the whole thing was put together it was far too tight!  I actually DID feel some other sort of sensation under the scrotum while wearing it that way too, which I couldn’t really describe very well but thought that it could very well be the “burning” feeling that she had previously described.  So with all that in mind I was back to it being a possible “gap” issue.  Perhaps when going down a size on the ring, it was necessary to increase the gap size to make up for it?  I asked Mistress MM about that, and her first response was that I should immediately STOP using that ring if it was that painful, as we certainly don’t want to do any permanent damage!  She also agreed that it sounded like we could stand to increase the size of the gap between the ring and the cage..  They could increase it either a full size or 1/2 size, but her recommendation was to go with a full size (which I believe will end up being about ~1/4 inch extra).

wpid-20141107_230720.jpgIt is a pretty small fee for them to make that adjustment, so I went ahead and paid for that then dropped the smaller ring in the mail to ship back to Mature Metal.  I heard back from Mistress MM that it had arrived there yesterday.  However, what I did NOT realize (or see on the original invoice when I paid it) was that they actually wanted to have the whole cage back along with it so they could make sure that in the end everything was right with the gap size, hole alignment, etc.  Since I am still WEARING the cage now, just with the larger ring, I asked if it was possible at all to make these changes without that piece being present.  She said it COULD be done, and they would do their best to get everything right, but if it needed any more adjustments then there would be another charge…  Rather than take even more days to ship the whole cage to them (and not be locked during that time), I decided to take that risk and trust that they would be able to get the ring right (or at least “close enough!”)  If I DO need more adjustments later, it’s really such a small fee that I will have no problem with paying it again–and will make sure to work it out so that I can include the cage along with it the next time!

So that’s my current state, just sort of “getting by” with a ring that seems to be a bit to large, while waiting for my other ring to arrive back from Mature Metal and HOPEFULLY fit much better now!  It kind of surprised me that I was able to wear the larger ring for so long without any real issues at all (including a stint of 4 continuous months with no break from it!) but then all of a sudden it would start rubbing..  According to Mature Metal though, that is a pretty common occurance.  Apparently your body actually does adjust/adapt over time, and it is often necessary to keep making small adjustments like that as you go along..  Now I know!

Comments
  1. Chris_sd says:

    Hello, I went ahead and got the jailbird a couple months back. I love it and my measurements were pretty close although I could have gone a bit smaller. My problem is I’ve had a burning sensation under my scrotum, I contacted MM and sent it in as they suggested increasing the gap a half size. I got it back and still same problem. I’m able to wear it at night with loose clothing but wearing dress pants seems to increase the pain. I’m only to wear it a couple days then have to take a break because of the pain. I’m hoping everything will kind of adjust to the device over time but wondering if theirs any special type of lotion or lube that may help. I’ve been using regular water based lube but it doesn’t seem to help at all.

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  2. sissy7144 says:

    Which device is most secure?

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    • pcguy0681 says:

      Hi there- there are SO many differing opinions out there about this topic that I probably couldn’t even begin to touch on very many of them. I can really only comment from personal experience on the Queen’s Keep or any number of the plastic CB-XXXX devices. Among those, the Queen’s Keep is hands down the most comfortable device I have ever owned. When the fit is right, you really can forget you’re wearing it as you go through your normal, run-of-the-mill day.

      As for security, if you’re absolutely looking for “no escape possible,” I honestly believe that might be somewhat of a myth, at least for anything short of a full belt or a piercing. Even with the Queen’s Keep (including having one of the “anti-pullout” pins installed), I believe that there are times that I would still be able to pull out of the back of it if I really wanted to and tried hard enough. Now to elaborate, it would NOT be possible to get the balls free, and it would probably be quite difficult to ever get myself back into the cage again after that, so it would be quite uncomfortable. PLUS, my key-holder would then know that I had done that and would likely not be very happy…

      So, escapable? Yes, probably. But that’s not something I would ever really WANT to do anyway! To me at least, being in chastity means more than just wearing a device to keep from getting erections. I WANT to give Angel control over when I can/cannot have an orgasm. I WANT to treat HER to as many orgasms as she would like, without any expectation whatsoever of getting my own.. I actually did ASK for this, and it took Angel a while to trust me when I say that her orgasms are as good for me as they are for her, so that’s not anything I’d want to ruin by trying to cheat my way out of the device..

      I hope that helps at least somewhat… Good luck in choosing your device!

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  3. sissy7144 says:

    Need a safe device that is comfortable with no escape possible

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